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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotrod View Post
    Assuming that you have centerstands,,, what are you folks doing that requires lifting the whole bike?

    I have 2 MC jacks left over from the old bikes that haven't been touched since I got the 6,,, A 'regular' Larin and a HF 'high lift',,, both collecting dust now,,,

    Granted, I'll place a floor jack under the forward portion of the crank case for stability when working on the front wheel (tire change), but what do y'all do with the bike 'raised up' on the jack?
    I haven't had to lift it yet. Just got it in July, but how about removal of the rear wheel without laying the bike over on it's side or removing plastic for one. Or how about changing the oil without laying on the floor. I can run through other issues. BTW, I bought a standard, and as of yet have not bought a center stand(Plan to) Just have been busy buying other things. I can think of other work that is simply easier if you bring the bike up to a higher elevation. I probably will get a lift table this next year, but until then, my Craftsman bike jack will do.

    Heck with ,my Valkyrie, I often lift it just to polish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmytee View Post
    I haven't had to lift it yet. Just got it in July, but how about removal of the rear wheel without laying the bike over on it's side or removing plastic for one. Or how about changing the oil without laying on the floor. I can run through other issues. BTW, I bought a standard, and as of yet have not bought a center stand(Plan to) Just have been busy buying other things. I can think of other work that is simply easier if you bring the bike up to a higher elevation. I probably will get a lift table this next year, but until then, my Craftsman bike jack will do.

    Heck with ,my Valkyrie, I often lift it just to polish.
    Washing / cleaning was why I bought the high lift. Don't need it anymore,,,

    I was of the opinion I'd avoid laying the bike over to change the rear tire,,,, until it came time to do it... Just way too darn easy, faster, (and possibly safer) to lay it over than any other way.

    Jack the bike up,,, on a jack,,, to change oil? Eh, well,,, if that's what ya want to do,,, I'm sure it can be done that way,,,

    The 6 is a dream to change oil on compared to other bikes,,,

    Besides, I like laying on the floor,,,, Sometimes I'll take a little nap while I'm down there,,, I have to admit, I'm usually not alone on these adventures,,, Roxy, my dog, usually has to come over and briefly 'supervise' the process,,, 'Hazards' usually consist of big, wet, dog kisses!!! LOL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotrod View Post
    Washing / cleaning was why I bought the high lift. Don't need it anymore,,,

    I was of the opinion I'd avoid laying the bike over to change the rear tire,,,, until it came time to do it... Just way too darn easy, faster, (and possibly safer) to lay it over than any other way.

    Jack the bike up,,, on a jack,,, to change oil? Eh, well,,, if that's what ya want to do,,, I'm sure it can be done that way,,,

    The 6 is a dream to change oil on compared to other bikes,,,

    Besides, I like laying on the floor,,,, Sometimes I'll take a little nap while I'm down there,,, I have to admit, I'm usually not alone on these adventures,,, Roxy, my dog, usually has to come over and briefly 'supervise' the process,,, 'Hazards' usually consist of big, wet, dog kisses!!! LOL!!!
    To each their own, but I don't see why I'd want to lay on the floor when I can sit on my little work chair that scoots around just great. It takes me what 10 to 30 seconds to have my bike in the air at eye level. Sorry, just makes more sense to me. If I had no jack, I could see laying it over on it's side to change the rear wheel, but why? I spend enough time crawling and scooting from high to low in my profession. Why do it at home. I'm a service technician in commercial HVAC-R . I'm a firm believer in tools and proper equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmytee View Post
    It takes me what 10 to 30 seconds to have my bike in the air at eye level.


    Is that with your MC jack, or with the table lift you bought today after you installed your BP and couldn't figure out how to get the bike up?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotrod View Post
    Is that with your MC jack, or with the table lift you bought today after you installed your BP and couldn't figure out how to get the bike up?



    Uh, excuse me, but when I wrote that it was in reference to my Valkyrie. If ya paid attention, I had not lifted the F6B as of yet when that was written. I did not have the belly pan yet. And yes it would still just take me that amount of time to lift the F6B as well. Did it today. I've been eyeballing the table lifts for quite some time. A couple of years in fact. It was actually my wife's idea to go ahead and go get one.
    The reason for the table lift has more to do with my Valkyrie than the F6B. I have to do some maintenance on the Slave cylinder for the clutch. To pull the slave cylinder, one has to remove the side stand and therefore the Lift/jack adaptor. The bracket is in the way . That means the bike needs to be supported upright some other way while I do the work. Now I could have rigged some lumber and some straps. I could have just bought a wheel chock and secured it , but with the wife saying "lets' go ahead and get the lift table", well do I really need to say more.
    Oh, I figured how to lift the F6B with the belly pan, but the jack will see much less use now obviously.

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    I have about 3K miles on my black bellypan and haven't scraped yet, but the roads around here are mostly flat and straight. Will be in the Ozarks this weekend so that will be the real test. I did ride in the TX Hill Country before I installed the bellypan and didn't scrape anything there either, but my buddy who was behind me did say it looked like I was about to touch down a few times.

    Anyway, the bellypan is cheap insurance as far as I'm concerned and even if it scrapes a bit it won't be an issue for me. I have not noticed any additional heat with the belly pan on. However, the F6B is so much cooler running than my previous bikes (Harley and Victory) that I probably wouldn't notice the heat anyway.

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    Gonna take the high road on that one,,, (clickclick)

    Moving forward,,,

    X,,, I'm not an aggressive driver, but both 'folds' on my BP were scratched from front to rear. Couple dings,,,

    (Wifey's cover was fine, but she rides like Gramma)

    Took both off. That was probaly 5k ago... As I have an excellent vantage point when changing oil, it's easy to see if anything has been scratched.

    Nada. Perhaps the pan hangs a fraction of an inch lower than I need for my 'old man' cornering,,,

    Each pan that I removed did have a nice burn mark on it from the pipe on one side,,, Quite a bit of localized heat 'in the general area' of the pan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmytee View Post
    I haven't had to lift it yet. Just got it in July, but how about removal of the rear wheel without laying the bike over on it's side or removing plastic for one. Or how about changing the oil without laying on the floor. I can run through other issues. BTW, I bought a standard, and as of yet have not bought a center stand(Plan to) Just have been busy buying other things. I can think of other work that is simply easier if you bring the bike up to a higher elevation. I probably will get a lift table this next year, but until then, my Craftsman bike jack will do.

    Heck with ,my Valkyrie, I often lift it just to polish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmytee View Post
    I haven't had to lift it yet. Just got it in July, but how about removal of the rear wheel without laying the bike over on it's side or removing plastic for one. Or how about changing the oil without laying on the floor. I can run through other issues. BTW, I bought a standard, and as of yet have not bought a center stand(Plan to) Just have been busy buying other things. I can think of other work that is simply easier if you bring the bike up to a higher elevation. I probably will get a lift table this next year, but until then, my Craftsman bike jack will do.

    Heck with ,my Valkyrie, I often lift it just to polish.
    I have a Craftsman bike jack that I used, with an adapter, on my Valkyrie. Haven't tried it on the F6. What can you tell me about best placement, etc.? I have an aluminum belly pan that I can't imagine supporting the bike. Must that be removed? Do you strap the bike down on the jack? Any tips you can give me on using this jack would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce B View Post
    I have a Craftsman bike jack that I used, with an adapter, on my Valkyrie. Haven't tried it on the F6. What can you tell me about best placement, etc.? I have an aluminum belly pan that I can't imagine supporting the bike. Must that be removed? Do you strap the bike down on the jack? Any tips you can give me on using this jack would be appreciated. Thanks.
    Well, as soon as I lift it , I'll let you know. I just got the belly pan today. I've only seen pictures of the F6B being lifted with the McGuyver belly pan. I still have my Valk.

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