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    Trump's wall does need more explanation from him than the Mexicans will pay for it, like how his original budget was under 3 billion then slowly climbed to 17 billion and how effective it will be when the majority of immigrants enter the country legally, then simply over stay.Does the 17 billion cover the cost of the infrastructure to build the wall and the cost of repair and manning it. Also, isn't there already a fence? It might be time to get into the ladder business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    Trump's wall does need more explanation from him than the Mexicans will pay for it, like how his original budget was under 3 billion then slowly climbed to 17 billion and how effective it will be when the majority of immigrants enter the country legally, then simply over stay.Does the 17 billion cover the cost of the infrastructure to build the wall and the cost of repair and manning it. Also, isn't there already a fence? It might be time to get into the ladder business.


    In most places, nothing! Some 3 strand barb wire and some a entrance exit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    Trump's wall does need more explanation from him than the Mexicans will pay for it, like how his original budget was under 3 billion then slowly climbed to 17 billion and how effective it will be when the majority of immigrants enter the country legally, then simply over stay.Does the 17 billion cover the cost of the infrastructure to build the wall and the cost of repair and manning it. Also, isn't there already a fence? It might be time to get into the ladder business.
    You must not have read the cost analysis posted earlier. If the US had to build a completely new wall EVERY YEAR, the USA would still be $83+ BILLION/YEAR ahead. Just think how much great riding infrastructure could be repaired with the residual budget.

    As TaxFree4 posted, Mexico is already starting to address the issue with just the hint that Trump will be in office. They know they will be losing their dumping ground that is being supported by the current pernicious administration.

    Hopefully, 2016 will be the last year of free, incentivized, uninhibited illegal alien passage.

    Number of illegal alien families at southern border surging in 2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    Trump's wall does need more explanation from him than the Mexicans will pay for it, like how his original budget was under 3 billion then slowly climbed to 17 billion and how effective it will be when the majority of immigrants enter the country legally, then simply over stay.Does the 17 billion cover the cost of the infrastructure to build the wall and the cost of repair and manning it. Also, isn't there already a fence? It might be time to get into the ladder business.
    Actually, in a properly constructed wall you would need less bodies to man it. An electrified topped, concrete reinforced wall cannot be cut like the current chain link fence, which is like a traffic cop on valiums. Military drones with infrared can be deployed very economically, as compared to manpower. How high the cost climbs doesn't matter because they will pay for it. Whether more come here illegally or over stay is not the point, the first line of action is to stop them from bleeding over then ICE can do their job of routing the freeloaders that are here. One very important thing is to print the electrified fence warning in Spanish. I would leave a couple on the fence all crusty and burnt just so the others will see what happens when you try and cut or hop over a high voltage barrier, visual is always better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxfree4 View Post
    Actually, in a properly constructed wall you would need less bodies to man it. An electrified topped, concrete reinforced wall cannot be cut like the current chain link fence, which is like a traffic cop on valiums. Military drones with infrared can be deployed very economically, as compared to manpower. How high the cost climbs doesn't matter because they will pay for it. Whether more come here illegally or over stay is not the point, the first line of action is to stop them from bleeding over then ICE can do their job of routing the freeloaders that are here. One very important thing is to print the electrified fence warning in Spanish. I would leave a couple on the fence all crusty and burnt just so the others will see what happens when you try and cut or hop over a high voltage barrier, visual is always better.
    Not only those features to the wall as you have envisioned... also enhance the desolate areas on our side of the wall by establishing artillery impact training areas; for our armed forces.



    Of course we would be required to place bilingual signs on their side of the wall...

    ˇPeligro! Área de Impacto Arillery

    ...but they would have to pay for them as well




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    Quote Originally Posted by willtill View Post
    Not only those features to the wall as you have envisioned... also enhance the desolate areas on our side of the wall by establishing artillery impact training areas; for our armed forces.



    Of course we would be required to place bilingual signs on their side of the wall...

    ˇPeligro! Área de Impacto Arillery

    ...but they would have to pay for them as well


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    I got into quite a pissing contest with an acquaintance at the gym last night. He is voting for Killerly and proud off it, he voted for Obuma twice because he is somewhat black, ( acquaintance is black). Thinks all the stuff about Killerly is made up and believes all the stuff about Trump. I guess you will never change a man's mind. They believe as much for their side as we do ours! My issue is where is the common sense? I wonder why people can't see all the smoke screen around Trump is just folks protecting their money train. Term limits is the only way to fix this. Lets go back to a time where people went to serve the public instead of robbing them to fill their pockets ! Money, sex, drugs and water...everything comes back to these four! Out of time gotta go!
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    I agree with you Steve. Term limits would solve most of our people problems. Not too many would spend millions of dollars to get elected knowing they were only staying 6 or 8 years. The fat cats would stay home and let Joe Blow , the guy that really cares , go up there and do a job. The original premise was not to send a lawyer up there to collect kickbacks from lobbyists and make a career out of the job. People should ask themselves , why does an attorney work for $175,000 a year when he could make 5 times that practicing law.

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