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    For the last two decades or so , thru the extensive studies , more scientists and legal experts , trying to recognize neuroscience predisposition among people , who could kill other human bean without any mercy and regrets . They found , that many individuals ( and majority of them served as a soldiers ) were stimulated by hidden killing gene , responsible for inverted mind set , which allows them to act beyond control and commit ruthless crime(s) .

    Humans , as a species , still carry hunting instinct , which thru the evolutionary process didn't rule out possibilities of taking someone's life - legally or not . This gene already is able to trigger and ignite decision of killing someone without recognition of incoming consequences . For them , principles of life in symbiosis with others do not play any major role . Behavior of many doesn't possess ability of self judgmental thinking , or don't recognize the differences between right and wrong . Interpretation of moral rules of life comes from many levels ; has also many roots , like : ethics , culture , how they were raised , who provided education , influences of environment , etc . Those , who are already violent and easily provoked , can use violence as a form of entertainment too. Sometimes they also looking for the depletion of an anger , which in many cases can't be controlled . Presently , the major causes of violent crime comes from poverty and usually individuals without any hope , or life improvement are the first , who consciously are grabbing THE GUNS , as a tool to allow them to achieve un-consience goal. The main reason of making it so easy are simplicity of reaching for these tools and this is the fundamental subject of our endless discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limoles View Post
    For the last two decades or so , thru the extensive studies , more scientists and legal experts , trying to recognize neuroscience predisposition among people , who could kill other human bean without any mercy and regrets . They found , that many individuals ( and majority of them served as a soldiers ) were stimulated by hidden killing gene , responsible for inverted mind set , which allows them to act beyond control and commit ruthless crime(s) .

    Humans , as a species , still carry hunting instinct , which thru the evolutionary process didn't rule out possibilities of taking someone's life - legally or not . This gene already is able to trigger and ignite decision of killing someone without recognition of incoming consequences . For them , principles of life in symbiosis with others do not play any major role . Behavior of many doesn't possess ability of self judgmental thinking , or don't recognize the differences between right and wrong . Interpretation of moral rules of life comes from many levels ; has also many roots , like : ethics , culture , how they were raised , who provided education , influences of environment , etc . Those , who are already violent and easily provoked , can use violence as a form of entertainment too. Sometimes they also looking for the depletion of an anger , which in many cases can't be controlled . Presently , the major causes of violent crime comes from poverty and usually individuals without any hope , or life improvement are the first , who consciously are grabbing THE GUNS , as a tool to allow them to achieve un-consience goal. The main reason of making it so easy are simplicity of reaching for these tools and this is the fundamental subject of our endless discussion.
    And this is why I take a small tablet every morning....to keep my blood pressure under control due to the stresses incurred by the conflict within me caused by my moral upbringing and respect for life going in direct opposition to my desire to kill some asshole that desperately needs it. In this case, the one who chopped off a puppy's hind foot and threw the pup into a canal in Los Angeles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 53driver View Post
    And this is why I take a small tablet every morning....to keep my blood pressure under control due to the stresses incurred by the conflict within me caused by my moral upbringing and respect for life going in direct opposition to my desire to kill some asshole that desperately needs it. In this case, the one who chopped off a puppy's hind foot and threw the pup into a canal in Los Angeles.
    I carry- and it is NOT in order to exact Gods justice on people in this and other examples. No matter how heinous that's why we have police and courts My ONLY 2 reasons are for my own personal protection should MY life be threatened...or ditto my family- any other situation is none of my business...and I may not really understand that situation anyway. The other reason is that I can, it is a right (and a responsibility). As they say- use it or lose it.

    Once you shoot someone, your life changes, I don't want to do that because some asshole cut me off, or I got in a fist fight with a bigger guy, or I misinterpreted a situation that didn't involve me at a mall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJ View Post
    I carry- and it is NOT in order to exact Gods justice on people in this and other examples. No matter how heinous that's why we have police and courts My ONLY 2 reasons are for my own personal protection should MY life be threatened...or ditto my family- any other situation is none of my business...and I may not really understand that situation anyway. The other reason is that I can, it is a right (and a responsibility). As they say- use it or lose it.

    Once you shoot someone, your life changes, I don't want to do that because some asshole cut me off, or I got in a fist fight with a bigger guy, or I misinterpreted a situation that didn't involve me at a mall.
    Rick - Full agreement. I carry for the same reasons. I do not do vigilante work.

    My response was aimed at the "genetics lesson" from the distinguished gentleman from New Jersey.
    Yes there is stress in everyday living, and the resulting conflict between "thinking I want to do something" and resorting to my "live and let live" philosophy tends to raise my BP a few notches.
    But, no action is taken until my life is in danger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 53driver View Post
    Rick - Full agreement. I carry for the same reasons. I do not do vigilante work.

    My response was aimed at the "genetics lesson" from the distinguished gentleman from New Jersey.
    Yes there is stress in everyday living, and the resulting conflict between "thinking I want to do something" and resorting to my "live and let live" philosophy tends to raise my BP a few notches.
    But, no action is taken until my life is in danger.
    Glad to hear it...True confession- I hear you on the assholes bereft of morality or conscience. I volunteer at a local jail and DAYUM some people think differently...not all of them, but there are real sickos out there. Anyway- peace brother!

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    Guys its simple. If you want to carry and are qualified then have at it. If you don't want to carry and feel unsure about your ability then leave the guns to others. For those of you that don't carry and don't want me to carry either , if the situation arises I will try my best to not save your sorry self. If I screw up and save your life then I am sorry in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooter View Post
    Guys its simple. If you want to carry and are qualified then have at it. If you don't want to carry and feel unsure about your ability then leave the guns to others. For those of you that don't carry and don't want me to carry either , if the situation arises I will try my best to not save your sorry self. If I screw up and save your life then I am sorry in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shooter View Post
    Guys its simple. If you want to carry and are qualified then have at it. If you don't want to carry and feel unsure about your ability then leave the guns to others. For those of you that don't carry and don't want me to carry either , if the situation arises I will try my best to not save your sorry self. If I screw up and save your life then I am sorry in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shooter View Post
    Guys its simple. If you want to carry and are qualified then have at it. If you don't want to carry and feel unsure about your ability then leave the guns to others. For those of you that don't carry and don't want me to carry either , if the situation arises I will try my best to not save your sorry self. If I screw up and save your life then I am sorry in advance.


    As we discuss in our Thursday defensive handgun class........when the shit hits the fan at Waffle House I am in no way obligated to defend you. You, under the 2A are fully free to apply the same principals that I have decided to use to defend my family and me. If you choose to ask the would be killer 'pretty please don't shoot me' as your defense, best of luck to you. I fully understand the legal ramifications of deploying my handgun and using it. That's why I take my responsibility fully to heart. Best of luck to those that choose another method of defense. The vast majority of gun toting liberal titled 'gun nuts' also understand this theory and are responsible gun carrying citizens. The MSNBC's and liberal scare tactic of there being Dodge City shootouts when everyone is carrying just never materialized. Again, liberals need to create fear to extend their agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limoles View Post
    For the last two decades or so , thru the extensive studies , more scientists and legal experts , trying to recognize neuroscience predisposition among people , who could kill other human bean without any mercy and regrets . They found , that many individuals ( and majority of them served as a soldiers ) were stimulated by hidden killing gene , responsible for inverted mind set , which allows them to act beyond control and commit ruthless crime(s) .

    Humans , as a species , still carry hunting instinct , which thru the evolutionary process didn't rule out possibilities of taking someone's life - legally or not . This gene already is able to trigger and ignite decision of killing someone without recognition of incoming consequences . For them , principles of life in symbiosis with others do not play any major role . Behavior of many doesn't possess ability of self judgmental thinking , or don't recognize the differences between right and wrong . Interpretation of moral rules of life comes from many levels ; has also many roots , like : ethics , culture , how they were raised , who provided education , influences of environment , etc . Those , who are already violent and easily provoked , can use violence as a form of entertainment too. Sometimes they also looking for the depletion of an anger , which in many cases can't be controlled . Presently , the major causes of violent crime comes from poverty and usually individuals without any hope , or life improvement are the first , who consciously are grabbing THE GUNS , as a tool to allow them to achieve un-consience goal. The main reason of making it so easy are simplicity of reaching for these tools and this is the fundamental subject of our endless discussion.


    Makes sense.
    Something's wrong in a violent person's genetics.
    Giving them a gun only mitigates their instability.
    Too bad prescreening can't filter the violent ones from the normal.

    Looks like the Canadian chainsaw nut job has a few bent DNA molecules.
    I still say poutine is partly to blame.

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