Originally Posted by
Miks
I was recently at my Honda dealer, they have two unsold F6B's for 2016, along with a 2015 GoldWing and a 2016 Goldwing.
Personally, I think the F6B is one awesome bike! The power, handling, performance all are great, along with the styling. I left the multi-line Honda dealership, and went down the road to Harley Davidson, where they were selling bikes like you read about. Of course, the new 107 Cu In Milwaukee Eight is an engine that Honda should build, it is that close to a nice product. I then stopped by the Victory/Indian dealer, and again, bikes were moving off the showroom, things were exciting. Now..I have ridden the 2017 Indian Chieftain with the new Ride Command Touchscreen, and although nice, the engine is sort of a pooch off idle, but pulls pretty good. An F6B will leave it in the dust, I can assure you of that!
So...here is the problem at Honda. It is ran by accountants that keep new features from , being introduced, under the guise of cost savings of any development. I hate to admit it, but Harley has it figured out. They came out with the Rushmore project, EVERYONE that actually rides was trading in the old style Harley, for the new improved bike. Harley sold a TON of the Rushmore project bikes, the touch sceen was nice, bluetooth, throttle by wire has been with Harley for a long time, along with a $300 cruise control option.
What is lacking at Honda, is real product development we want! Honda can't sell the bikes, although they are priced at a discount to the competition, and it is because they build a boring motorcycle. For a technology company, I can't believe they don't have a touch screen, and that all come with ABS and traction control, as every modern bike should have. Bluetooth connectivity isn't my thing, but I know people like this, and the throttle by wire just works so well, integrates with the fuel mapping AND the cruise control is so much better!
Now that Harley has the new 107 cu in Milwaukee Eight, they have the riders excited and buying the product. They recently laid of 200 people at the plant in Pennsylvania that builds the new Milwaukee Eight, but that is because they built a ton of the bikes for the dealership network, and like to control the DEMAND by limiting production. I know this spring, Harley will sell every single bike they can build, ZERO discounts folks!
The Indian Ride Command Touchscreen was sort of cool, although I think it is obnoxiously too large and placed too high, the buyers are coming out in droves to buy the latest version of the bike. I have been told a lot of the Indian Roadmasters sold, were to people who traded in the Goldwing for one. Now, the Roadmasters are being traded in on the new touchscreen...because that is what everyone wants.
This is my theory on Honda, they are concentrating on the sub 500 cc bikes, and don't give a damn about the bikes that they could make the most money on if they knew anything about motorcycles and riders!