New BMW Bagger Model

[Hornblower]

I expect that these limitations are set per territory. I don't think the speed limiter kicks in this early on US models. Hornblower has one, I believe, so he can confirm.

No such limitation on my 2018 K1600B. Purportedly, the KB will do 128 mph in 4th gear at the rev limit so top speed in 6th would be ridiculous. I can't attest to that personally .

[Jimmytee]

Then there's this. 200 horsepower sport tourer

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/201...15-fast-facts/

[Hornblower]

Nice, JimmyTee! I've heard it said that all 1000cc inline 4 cylinder bikes have pretty offensive vibration. I know my Ninja 1000 did. The vibration started around 5000 RPM and grew worse from there. My S1000XR also had noticeable vibration starting around 5000 RPM but once you got past 6000 RPM or so, it smoothed out. Anyway, this new 200 HP Ninja Sport Tourer should be quite the beast but a little too "sporty" for this old guy.

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Then there's this. 200 horsepower sport tourer

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/201...15-fast-facts/

Thanks for posting Jummytee

When it's just got to get there overnight! lol

Leno's garage does an episode where they talk about the H2 and the H2r. Kawasaki's flagship bike made with all premium materials. It's the model where Kawasaki engineers create for the sake of showing off their prowess. Apparently it should sell for a lot more than it's already very high price because of the hours and materials put into it. Kawasaki actually looses money on it but garner prestige in the industry. I'll look for the episode and post a link.

https://youtu.be/vAo0LWQFxdE

[Texas F6B]

Thursday, I rode the BMW 1600B, the plus was the clutchless shifting, which had time not using the clutch, moves very quickly, better that F6B. Big bike to big bike, F6B short comings no ABS braking, no dash select ride. A better comparison would to Honda 2018, price new Honda to BMW about the same. Not have ridden the new Honda, but Knowing I have a 2016 for 7K less. My F6B I will enjoy for the next 3 years. Thanks

[jm21ddd15]

Cool looking, hi-power cycles! At Sturgis this summer, there was a whole group of the Boss Hoss bikes. One BIG man, got on his 504 cubic inch, turbo-charged Boss Hoss, and it had Nitriss bottles, and put down a black strip of rubber, about 1/4 mile long. He had a 14" wide tire on the beast. Had more HP than any 3 of the other mentioned bikes.

[ths61]

Cool looking, hi-power cycles! At Sturgis this summer, there was a whole group of the Boss Hoss bikes. One BIG man, got on his 504 cubic inch, turbo-charged Boss Hoss, and it had Nitriss bottles, and put down a black strip of rubber, about 1/4 mile long. He had a 14" wide tire on the beast. Had more HP than any 3 of the other mentioned bikes.

Boss Hoss's probably cook the riders alive with all of the engine heat.

[BIGLRY]

Boss Hoss's probably cook the riders alive with all of the engine heat.

Trust me when I say you dont want to set at a stop light to long with a Boss Hoss between your legs....I know.

(not me)

[pdxstriper]

Bottom line for me in comparing the K1600B vs New Goldwing:

tech: comparable
price: comparable
performance and zoom/gee-wiz factor: comparable

reliability: favors the Honda
cost of ownership: greatly favors Honda

So that's the way I'll roll once they are both out and the initial bugs are flushed out

pete

Thursday, I rode the BMW 1600B, the plus was the clutchless shifting, which had time not using the clutch, moves very quickly, better that F6B. Big bike to big bike, F6B short comings no ABS braking, no dash select ride. A better comparison would to Honda 2018, price new Honda to BMW about the same. Not have ridden the new Honda, but Knowing I have a 2016 for 7K less. My F6B I will enjoy for the next 3 years. Thanks

[bigswole31]

Bottom line for me in comparing the K1600B vs New Goldwing:

tech: comparable
price: comparable
performance and zoom/gee-wiz factor: comparable

reliability: favors the Honda
cost of ownership: greatly favors Honda

So that's the way I'll roll once they are both out and the initial bugs are flushed out

pete

Interesting....
While I agree with MOST of what you wrote, I am curious about your projection on the performance factor. The K1600B blows the doors of the F6B. All of the K1600 series bikes have 160hp, and several of our members have had the pleasure of watching the K-series taillights get smaller and smaller. Hornblower and a couple others actually own or owned both a K1600 and an F6B. According to them, though the F6B is a great performer in its own right, it isn't comparable at all performance-wise. The K-series are faster with more clearance in the turns.

The new Goldwing's engine is supposed to be an improvement on the current engine (how much remains to be seen...but the displacement has only gone up by 1cc), and there is a slight difference in weight between it and the F6B (90 pounds lighter than the current full-dressed wing... less so with our bikes). How are you drawing the conclusion that the performance is comparable? Better than what we have (which is great IMO)?...probably. Comparable to the beastly inline 6 that the K1600 has?... I see no evidence of that in any of the reviews.

At the end of the day, there are several factors that go into making a bike purchase besides speed and handling. I'm just curious if you came across some info that paints a different comparative picture between the performance of the new bikes. If so, please share.